Developing God’s Heart: A Christian Nanny in a Jewish Home

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When you love somebody, it’s personal. When you walk in relationship with somebody and things like this happen, it’s personal and you can’t be quiet. And there are these people that walk around that say that they are Christians and they’re being quiet and that’s a problem. And it’s probably because they don’t know somebody. It’s not affecting them right now.
Yeah.
Well, we are so excited that you have joined us today. Today we have with us Ashley Logs in friend of the Center for Israel, friend to the Jewish community here in America and at large, and an advocate for the Jew Gentile relationship and unity and has helped us put on many things at the Center for Israel. You’ve, you’ve been the spearhead for many of the things that we’ve done.
You’re kind,
Thank you. So thank you for joining the show.
Of course. Thank you for asking me.
I wanted you to come on here because many of our listeners are evangelical Christians that maybe have never met a Jewish person, maybe are struggling with the importance of Israel and the Jewish people. Aren’t we all just Christians? And isn’t Judaism a different religion? All these questions. And I’m sure you had those questions as well, kind of like we all had.
Yes.
But you found yourself in close relationship with the Jewish family and I think it changed your perspective. So I’d love to hear your story. Just growing up, what was your belief about Israel and then when you met this family, how did that begin to change or the wrestle that maybe that started in you? I’d love to hear.
Yeah, so I didn’t grow up believing anything about Israel. I think that’s where most of us, I knew it was a place and that was about it. It was in
The Old Testament for sure.
But I didn’t have any beliefs about them necessarily. Good or bad. They just existed and Jewish people existed. So when I was 18, I just was looking for a job and I was a nanny. And I ended up getting a job with a family that was Jewish. Is Jewish, was Jewish, is
Jewish, is Jewish for sure.
Talking past tense. Yes, they’re Jewish.
They were then and they are now
Forever
When you were 18 and now they’re Jewish.
And so they had a little boy and they just needed a nanny. And we really clicked. He was nine months old when I started watching him. I know. And now he’s a freshman in high school and I just don’t even know how to rip my head around that,
That you’re old now.
Truly. Is that
Where we’re wrapping our head around?
Because in my head I’m stuck at 18.
Yeah, you’re like, I’m still ready to nanny this nine month old.
Yes. But yeah, so I remember in my interview we talked for a while and when they offered me the job, they were like, okay, so you are not going to convert us. We’re not going to try to convert you. And I’m like, cool. Ground rules sounds great. I just need a job. Yeah, ground rules. Got it. And so it kind of made me think, what are we going to try to convert here? I really had no concept. The only concept I really had for Jewish people was the Holocaust, which broke my heart from the time I learned about it. And so,
Well, that’s a really interesting point because the whole, we won’t convert, you don’t convert us. I think most Christians don’t even understand how loaded that word is. And I don’t know if you knew that at the time.
No, I just needed a paycheck.
But it’s true. Christians use the word convert very loosely and with often great intentions because us Gentiles or as the Bible would say, when we were once far off pagans, we needed to convert. We were doing something way out of left field and we completely changed where to a Jewish person, someone who puts their faith in Yeshua, the Messiah of Israel, it’s a very Jewish thing. They’re not shifting from anything. They’re continuing their Jewish journey. But convert has meant in the past a death of Jewish life or Jewish identity or both. So convert is this really loaded term, and Christians are just like, why is convert offend them? We don’t understand church history. And so we think convert means just to change and believe in Jesus. And it’s sadly meant, and you’re no longer Jewish, you are now a Christian or in the most extreme cases, convert to Christianity or we’re going to kill you. So for our listeners, that convert word is strong. So they had the ground rules,
We had our ground rules, and I was like, cool, I just need a job. So we started doing life together because I was watching their son and quickly became family. I worked for them for a handful of years. And to this day we are still very, very close together. I mean, we walk and do life together all the time. Our kids go to the same schools, which is wild to say again because the old, yeah. Yes. It’s just crazy. But working for them really opened my eyes to Judaism and I had no concept again, like I said. And so there were things I learned about kosher and what that meant. It’s not just food, it’s how you process things in the kitchen, how you meat and dairy don’t get to mix. And there were different sides of the kitchen and different sides of the sink and different pots and pans and that really
Bonkers for Gentiles.
Yes. I was like, wait, first off, you have to really have a lot of money because the amount of things that two dishwashers come on, two dishwashers, two ovens, it blew my mind. But I just started learning about it because it was something that was important for them and I needed to keep in line out of respect for their house. It wasn’t necessarily something that I took home and started implementing in my home.
Come on, we needed a second oven.
No, I need two microwaves. And so I operated in that lane when I was at their house and learned how to cook that way, learned how to look at groceries and oh, this is kosher. And then
You learned the kosher symbol,
Learn the kosher symbol, learn the parv symbol like, okay, parv is a little different than kosher because of certain holiday. So I just started learning that stuff and I learned about the holidays and I mean, man, there are a lot of holidays every time
It’s fall and spring,
Might
As well just ask for a vacation,
Truly. And so it really was cool to watch their faith be on display, for lack of a better term. I got a front row seat to their life and it really just made me curious, what have I missed all this time? Or what is the world missing? And I lived with them for a little bit. And so that was fun. Friday night when Shabbat starts and all of this, the candles, all of it. It was my first experience with all of it. And I just remember thinking, this is really beautiful.
Totally.
Yeah.
The rhythms of Shabbat and then the feasts, it really grounds us.
And
I mean it reminds it. It’s a God thing. The sun and the moon is this rhythm of the day. And then Shabbat is this rhythm of the week. And I think that’s something that Gentile Christians really lack is this rhythm. And I always say, because we do Sabbath, we don’t do the Shabbat in the sense of the Jewish Orthodox way. But I always remind people, Sabbath is not just a Jewish thing, it’s a God thing.
Yeah, a hundred percent.
This was Genesis. This was Genesis one. He established that this seventh day is holy. This is before the Jewish people were created and before the mosaic laws. But even in just the observance of a Sabbath, and we’ll light candles and we’ll say prayers and I’ll pray over my wife and pray over our kids, but there’s something about the rhythm when the candles light, it’s like my soul just goes,
Yes.
Like it’s arrived, Sabbath has arrived. And I talked to so many Christians and they’ll try to say, yeah, we Sabbath, but do you yesterday, I don’t think I did any work yesterday. And I always say, you can’t retroactively have a Sabbath. You know what? Yesterday it didn’t work. Check Sabbath. It’s like if you didn’t know going in that that was Sabbath, your soul didn’t rest.
Exactly.
You might’ve looked at an email,
It’s the intentionality
Or thought about. But man, when those candles are lit and we’re saying prayers and we’re eating bread or it’s often pizza,
Whatever the meal is,
It’s bread
Hashtag kids. We’re
Counting it, gentile counting. It sets the tone for that next 24 hours that we are resting. I have a button on my phone, I will press this button Sabbath mode. Isn’t that fun?
That’s cool.
Background change. All of my apps turn off that email.
That’s a thing.
Well, so it’s a thing. You can do it. You have the do not disturb.
Yeah,
You can just make your own work car. I just have
A Sabbath
One. So this button is obviously a new feature for the iPhone. So you can make the button whatever you want, but even if you don’t have the button, you can just go do not disturb and hit Sabbath. And I just have all notifications turned off. My background changes doing that. Every time I see my phone, I see this is the Sabbath day, this is
Different.
I try not to be on my phone at all, but if I have my phone, it’s
This
Reminder we’re not working. And I’m curious, what other rhythms, if any, did you find when you were living with them that you thought like, wow, we need something like that?
I think when I was living with them, I didn’t have that thought process. I was young and my now husband, then boyfriend and I, we were like, what are we doing this weekend? What are we going to, they was no resting, if you will. We were always busy. But I do remember watching my friend, she would make bread every Friday morning and I’d watch her do it or I would watch her get all the laundry done and make sure the baby stuff was all taken care of, all the
Tasks in preparation for
Everything in preparation. And I remember thinking why you could do that tomorrow? But they didn’t. They didn’t. And my husband and I and our friends, we joke about this, but there would be days before I lived with them where I would leave on a Friday and the husband would ask me like, Hey, what are you doing tonight? I’m like, what do you need me to turn on 10
Time here to help?
He’s like, wait, you can do this, but I can’t do this. And I always thought it was silly, but it is their beliefs, it’s their rhythm, it’s what they do. And it always made me pause and we chuckle about it and that kind of thing, but there’s intentionality in everything that they do. And so now I’m older, we still walk in relationship together. I’ll still go over there on Friday
And
Watch my friend make bread. I’ll watch her prepare the home, I’ll watch her prepare a meal and now her kids will help if they’re home or it made me think, wow, I might not do everything that they do to create rest and intentionality, but I want to figure out what works for me and my family. And then working at Gateway and learning about Sabbath and then even walking in relationship with the Center for Israel, learning more about Sabbath, my husband and I, it looks different sometimes every week because kids for real and extracurricular activities and all of those kinds of things. I’d love to say every single Friday night it turns off and it doesn’t turn back on until the next evening. I would be lying. But I will tell you,
The ox falls in the ditch every now and then. You just got to leave room for it.
I know. But I will tell you when we do stop and we do intentionally prioritize that kind of rest, that kind of stopping my whole family benefits from it. And my girls love when we light the candles and daddy says a prayer, it’s my oldest’s favorite thing, mommy Daddy’s going to say blessing. Daddy’s going to, it’s beautiful
In Hebrew, daddy in Hebrew. And he’s like, I
Can’t, like
No shot,
No English baby girl. This is what we’re working with. And so I think because it is of the Lord, we get to partake in all of that as well. I just think that I’ve had this conversation with one of my best friends a lot lately, especially since October 7th. I’ve seen this resilience in the Jewish people. They’re not cowering
Away
From these atrocious things. There is this boldness in them. They’re like, we are who we are and we are not going to back down or apologize for that. And I think it’s beautiful.
Totally.
And you don’t find that in the Christian faith,
You
Don’t find resilience like that. You don’t find rhythm like that. And so for a while now, I have been, and one of my best friends were talking about this concept of what does it mean to be sold out? What does it for, not just in your heart and what you say with your mouth, but what does your life look like? Does it reflect the Lord? Does it? When I look at my friends, their whole life reflects their faith. It is who they are. And I think it’s beautiful
That yeah,
Do we have that?
It’s kind that if you were investigated that you were a follower of Jesus, would you be found guilty?
Yeah. Would there be facts? Would there be evidence
Or would it
Be like this guy is the same as every other American that we’ve stumbled upon,
But they go to church on Sunday, so they’re good
Check.
Yeah, check that box.
It’s such a needed conversation. It’s such a conflict that we wrestle with, which is what part of our Jewish foundation, because Christianity has a foundation
100%.
And so many people believe and understandably believe that it’s the Catholic church. And it’s like if that’s the foundation, then the foundation started in 300 ad
Ish. I’m not good at math, I’m not good at timeline,
But it’s like, what about before about Peter and
Paul
And Jesus? If that’s the foundation, then our foundation is Jewish.
Absolutely.
There’s so many topics in the Bible where when I teach about things, I’ll just read the scripture, I’ll read all of first Corinthians 12 or all of first Corinthians 14 or all of Acts 15. And people are like, this is mind blowing, but I’m just reading it.
You’re like, I’m just reading the Bible.
But when we read it with our own kind of Western understanding, we just sometimes skim over it.
But
All of Acts 15 is trying to answer this question. What do the Gentiles have to do? Because all the Jewish followers of Jesus are still Jewish,
Still
Plan on being Jewish.
Yeah, they’re not changing.
Never had an idea that we were changed to anything. But all these gentiles now are following
This
Jewish messiah. How are they supposed to live ally to this Jewish
Foundation? It breaks your brain a little bit.
And I always argue with people when you see it from their perspective, it would’ve been way easier to just say, Gentiles just become Jewish way cleaner. Because we sometimes forget these Gentile believers in Jesus. They’re not backslidden Christians. They are pagan. They are idol worshiping. They are orgy heaven. They are multiple God.
They’re a whole mess,
A mess,
Whole mess.
And we’re trying to talk to those with that background and be like, just come figure it out. It’s like, whoa, whoa, whoa. We’ve been doing this for thousands of
Years. We know what we’re doing.
Just come on board with us. And it’s crazy that God and the leaders of the Jerusalem church and Peter and Paul and Barnabas and all these people are advocating, no, no, no. God made them gentile and they don’t have to be
Jewish
Or else the whole Genesis 12 promise that we would bless the nations becomes void because then all the nations would just become part of
Israel.
That wasn’t God’s plan.
No.
So they have to stay gentile. And Acts 15 says right to the Gentiles, here’s the only four things that you need to do. And it’s the weirdest four things. It’s don’t drink blood food that’s been strangled. The animal’s been strangled, idolatry, food that’s been dedicated to idols and sexual immorality. And I’m like, I get the sexual immorality one. The other three are way out of left field.
We were doing that, people were doing that.
And that’s the top four list. If you gave me top four things that Gentile Christians have to do, I’d be like, whoa, number one, 10 commandments, bar none.
Right.
But it’s so interesting. It seems like what God did is he said, okay, Jews and Gentiles, you guys are now coming into a covenant together. And when male and female come into a covenant together and they’re getting married, we don’t say, oh, you’re newlyweds. Okay, here are the 20 things that you have to do. What do we do? We give them a few things. They for sure do. You have to be faithful to each other.
Please don’t do this. Don’t do this.
Can’t cheat food, sacrifice, idols. Don’t do that. Whatever we have our four, absolutely not. Everything else is like you’ll figure it out in
Relationship.
Just be faithful to God, be faithful to each other. You’ll figure it out. And that was God’s plan for the Jews. And Gentiles was like, don’t do these four terrible things that are actually going to keep you from even coming into relationship with each other. Everything else you’ll kind of just figure out.
But people are messy.
That is the messiest plan ever.
People are messy,
Irresponsible, it feels. But I think that’s our journey is if we’ve been adopted into this family that are required to keep Shabbat, we are not, I think we are required by God to keep Sabbath, but not in the same way that the Jews are called by God to keep. What other things are we supposed to keep? Are we supposed to? And I think that word keep in Hebrew, Shamar is also guard. What are we supposed to guard and protect? So it’s a really interesting wrestle that I think a lot of gentiles haven’t really fought. And so it’s really interesting. And what you said about your friend who was like, Hey, come turn on my oven. I was talking to an orthodox Jewish guy in Israel, and they had a bunch of Christians from America come in and they didn’t have a fire going and it was freezing. And on Shabbat, you can’t light a fire. So they called the gentiles over and they were like, Hey, this is the fire. Fire is actually out right now. And they’re trying to hint, you just want to get that fire going. You for sure. Can
You do that fire please?
And the pure hearted Christians were like, no, we want to do this with you. We want to do Shabbat with
You. They’re like, no, we need you to do this. Can you please? And again, I don’t know if that’s just
One instance that I’m trying to make a theology out of, but it is interesting. I wonder if that’s the interdependence that God desires.
Maybe I never thought about that
We’re supposed to help each other
And
God designed it. I mean, how much have we gotten from the Jewish community staying together and keeping these principles and these commands we’ve benefited from their keeping. Is there anything that we can do to bless them in return? If it’s lighting a fire, maybe let’s light
That fire. I’ll light that fire. I will turn your oven on.
We’ll see. I don’t know. Maybe that’s, that’s heresy. And the Jewish community will be like, that’s not,
You can’t say that. Yeah.
But we’re here to help anyway. You can. So you’ve nanny for this family that turned into a friendship.
Absolutely.
Continuing friendship. So I’m going to take a hard turn.
Let’s go.
October 7th happens.
Yes.
What was that day? Because assuming you just, we all go to the people we know.
Yeah. Well, I actually had my friend’s kids
On October 7th,
On October 7th.
Oh my gosh.
My friends went on a trip for two weeks out of the country, and I had their kiddos. So my husband and my kids, we packed up and we went and stayed at their house. So I had their kids for two weeks. And I woke up on October 7th and I got on my phone and I started seeing all of this stuff on social media. I remember being in shock, this is not happening. Oh my gosh, what in the world is happening? And I just remember thinking, I have to protect these kids. They are old enough to have phones. Are they supposed to be on their phones Saturdays? No, but mom and dad are gone and
Ox in a ditch.
Yeah. They’re like Big ox in a ditch. Is she going to keep the rules going? And I just remember thinking, I have to protect them from seeing this because I don’t know what this is going to do to their hearts. I don’t know what questions they’re going to ask. I don’t know how to answer the questions that they’re probably going to ask. And I just remember thinking, I’ve seen this in history books. I’ve seen this in documentaries. What in the world is happening? And so I remember the youngest one, she was playing with my girls. She wasn’t on her phone, she hadn’t seen it. And then the oldest one, he was on his phone and I was like, Hey babe, have you seen some stuff? And he’s like, yeah. And I said, do you want to talk about it? And he’s like, no. And I said, okay, just do me a favor. Please be careful what you see, what you click on, what you watch because you can’t unsee things. I said, I know I’m not your mom and dad, but I’m here if you need anything and they’re going to be home soon. And he was like, okay. And he was just really quiet the rest of the day. Their daughter, they go to sleep away camp every summer.
And these kids that go to the sleepaway camp, they come from all over to this sleepaway camp and it’s really cool. They go away for three weeks. Everybody’s Jewish, everything, all the stuff. They get to learn a lot more about their faith and all of this stuff. And so she started getting text messages that day from her friends, some of them that were in Israel, and she was like, what is happening? And we just kind of had a conversation very again, because I’m still in shock.
Are
We reliving history right now? What in the world is happening? This is what? And so I just tried to calm her as much as I could and help her feel safe. And her parents were out of the country. Their parents were out of the country, so they were worried about their parents. And I could have never imagined on that day that we would be where we are now. In
What way?
That Jewish people are like, am I safe? Can I live in America anymore? Who’s going to hide me What it is 2024. And people are asking that question that they asked back in the 1940s, are you kidding me? Insane. People say that you have to remember your history so you don’t repeat it.
We don’t know our history very well.
I’m like, we need to get caught up because this is not okay. I don’t understand how we’ve talked about this a lot. I don’t understand, and I dunno how to wrap my head around people that hate a group of people so much that they want them exterminated. And we talked about that.
It makes no logical sense.
There’s no logical sense. And so the only explanation is pure evil.
And there’s something spiritual going on
Exactly
That we can’t see. Logic doesn’t take you there.
I have kids. I have two little girls, and there is not one thing that I would not do in this world to protect them. And I feel that way about my friends. When I would read books about the Holocaust or learn about the Holocaust, I always thought, why wouldn’t anybody stand up and say something? They’re watching this group of people be annihilated. They’re watching them be erased from the earth. They’re watching them be treated in ways that How could you
Dehumanizing
It? Exactly. How could you not say something? I also had always wondered how did people turn the other cheek? What were they believing? Where were they getting their information from? Why were they not questioning the information? And today I can see how people’s thought processes were swayed.
Yeah, little by little.
Exactly.
Their oppressors.
Exactly.
They’re against the Palestinians.
A hundred percent.
Yeah. All these little
Seeds. It’s heartbreaking. Yeah, it’s terrible. It’s heartbreaking.
I
Mean, I want to stand from the mountaintops and just yell at people. Are you kidding? You don’t have to like everybody, you don’t have to agree with them. You don’t have to believe in what they believe in, but they have a right to exist and you don’t get to say otherwise. And it hits personal for me because there are people that I love deeply that I’m like, I would hide you.
Yeah, totally.
I never in a million years thought I would ever, ever say that out loud or think that in my lifetime. And yet here we are and we’re watching this on a very public stage and it’s so reminiscent.
Yeah. Well, I mean, you see these rallies where they’re screaming from the river to the sea, and we have to tell people that’s all of Israel. That’s the river,
All of it.
The river is the Jordan River. The sea is the sea of the Mediterranean sea. They’re trying to wipe them out of Israel. But people just kind of go with the times and with the culture. But I think what’s so special about the relationship you have is that it’s a relationship. And I think most Christians don’t have relationship with a Jewish person or Jewish people or feel connected to the Jewish community, or even at the bare minimum feel connected to the Jewish foundation of their faith. I remember we were talking one time and you were like, every Christian needs to talk to a Jewish person. And my response was kind of cheeky. I said, they should be talking to one every day. His name’s Jesus.
You did say that. I was like, oh yeah, you’re right. But it’s like at the bare minimum, you can talk to the one that you’re
Following. Apparently
He
Did
Say that.
But even if that’s the bare minimum, and I think that was something that grieved me even. I mean definitely October 7th, but even before that, we would take so many trips to Israel with so many Christians. And I noticed this pattern, it wasn’t everybody, but I noticed this pattern that when rockets would fly or there’d be a terrorist attack or there’d be a shooting or something and Jewish people were killed or injured or there was something on the news, a rocket went off people’s response. Many were, oh my gosh, I’ve been there. And it’s like, yeah, you’ve been there. Are you concerned about the people? But so many Christians have this high respect and honor for the land,
But not the people.
Not the people. They go to Israel to tour the sites, to tour the land,
But
They don’t interact with the Jewish people. And one of my greatest desires is that our trips to Israel would be as relationship oriented as they are land oriented.
Yeah. You had mentioned that to me because you said if they have relationship with people, then things become personal. And when it’s personal, you don’t turn the other cheek.
Amen.
And I’ve experienced that. I’ve experienced that in a whole new way since October 7th. Like I said, our kids go to the same school and there have been some comments made to my friend’s kids and I’m like, give me names, give me
Addresses. I’m going to school address right now. Don’t ask questions. I’m going to
Go talk to their parents. It’s personal. When you love somebody, it’s personal. When you walk in relationship with somebody and things like this happen, it’s personal and you can’t be quiet. And there are these people that walk around that say that they are Christians and they’re being quiet. And that’s a problem. And it’s probably because they don’t know somebody. It’s not affecting them right now.
And it’s hard to weigh into the conflict. And that’s part of why we’re doing this podcast is because at the same time, talk to a Palestinian.
Absolutely.
Talk to an Arab Christian, talk to, I had lunch with an Egyptian. We’re not saying be so one-sided in your understanding conversation. But we need to wrestle. And again, what does Israel mean? Israel, LL meaning Elohim God. And it means to wrestle with God. We are supposed to be in a wrestling match. And that’s what this covenant and conflict
Thing
Is supposed to be. It’s supposed to be this man, how do I wrestle with the, I love the Palestinians, I love the Arab people and I want them to be safe, and I want them to be persecuted. At the same time, God has a covenant with Israel and those are his people. And I don’t get to vote on that or weigh into which one exactly I want it. It’s like if God’s with them, I’m with them too. Exactly.
With them doesn’t mean against any other people. And that’s the thing our culture is like. If you’re not 100% with us, then you are 100% against us. And I don’t know when that shift happened. You see it everywhere. And that’s a huge problem. And I think not the sole problem, but it’s a huge problem that we find ourselves in and we see it in these protests, these crazy things that are happening. It’s like, no, no, no, no, no, no. I never said I against you or that I want you to be eliminated. But what I did say is you need to stay in your lane and leave these people alone. That does not mean I want harm to come to you. That does not mean that I’m not for you. That does not mean that the Lord doesn’t love you. It doesn’t mean any of that. You’re creating this narrative in the absence of conversation. Nobody’s saying that, but you are operating as though that is the thought process. And it’s not. You find that in this conflict. You find that in politics, you find it in everything. I don’t know when that shift happened. I hear my parents talk about it didn’t used to be like this.
We go further and further to the extremes every election.
It’s exhausting. It’s exhausting.
Well, and I think it’s a desire for simplicity.
Absolutely.
And I think that’s one of my big beefs with the church right now. And it feels weird to say I have beef with the church. Just the global, how we view things as a majority of the church is, I think our desire to simplify things has got us in trouble. And there’s so many things where no black and white, and it’s like, no, it’s actually not.
Listen, I’m a black and white type of person. For those of you that believe in Enneagram, I’m an Enneagram eight. For those of you that believe in strengths, finders I believe is my number one. A lot of things are black and white to me, but I’ll be the first to tell you if this is gray, we have to live in the gray. And being in the gray is uncomfortable.
Totally.
People don’t like the gray. I don’t like the gray. No
One likes the gray.
I don’t like the gray. It’s it’s uncomfortable. You’re like, what are the lines? Where’s the boundaries? But gray, I’m finding as I get older, gray is a lot of where we live, where we need to be.
Where do you balance grace and law? Judgment and mercy. Those are issues. You have to really hold intention. If it’s black and white, we’re all screwed.
Game over.
Game over, game over. So yes, we have to weigh into this tension and luckily, we’re not the ones that only have to weigh in. God’s going to get his way at the end. Well, thank you for coming on. I think if I can draw anything out of this for our listeners, it would be go meet a Jewish person. Go call a local synagogue, whether it’s Messianic synagogue or a synagogue in your neighborhood and say, is there anything I can do to bless you? I’d love to meet with you or just pray for you. And that would bless the Jewish community so much, knowing there’s people in the community that will stand with them, that want to relate with them
And
To lay those ground. I’m not trying to convert,
Not for conversion, just simply being in relationship for
Relationship because we love Israel and the Jewish people and we are in debt to the Jewish people, which is what Romans 11 talks about. The only reason that we’re we’ve been grafted into this tree is because the Jewish people were faithful with the
Covenants.
And if we think that, well now it’s mine, we should be a little bit more afraid of the Lord, a little bit. Who loves his people and not to boast against them.
A hundred percent.
Thank you for encouraging us.
Thank you for having me. We’re going to
Need to do part two at some point.
Let’s go. Alright.